Customer experience - it's the way managers manage

I've been struck lately by the correlation between 2 things:

• The people who return (or have returned for them) their phone calls and their emails
• The type of experience given to customers in those same businesses

One of our Chief Customer Officers, who is excellent with his personal communications despite being very busy, told an interesting story of Marks and Spencers.

He had a bed ordered to be delivered on a particular day in a new house, because he had guest coming to stay. It didn't get delivered when it should have been so he escalated it of course only to be told it couldn't now be delivered and that, no, there was no one he could raise it with.

Not happy. Our man isn't one to take that lying down (joke, oh do keep up !!). He was going to go through all the various folk needed to get what he wanted. Ultimately the fruitless trail led all the way to the customer service director. He was told the customer service director does not speak to customers! Imagine his fury and his vehement retelling of this story. Of course he, the story teller, does speak to customers. It's part of his job to be responsible in person. And it keeps him real. Maybe that's why he returns his calls. Because he cares even when he's busy.

M&S came up again in our weekly meeting - interesting things that have happened this week. Jo's dad spent Saturday afternoon on the phone to M&S..... I expect the customer service director at M&S is a nice guy or lady. They'd probably cringe at the thought that they "don't talk to customers".

To quote one of Amazon's Jeff Bezos sayings: "Be very afraid of our customers. They're the ones who have the money". Perhaps the customer service director was very afraid...

So who is in charge of representing the customer at M&S. I took at look at their board. It isn't clear that there is anyone. Lots of product and logistics and so on. Now that can be a great thing - the customer is everywhere. Or it can be a bad thing - no chief customer officer to listen to, aggregate and prioritise what customers want done across the business and represent doing the right things for customers.

I know, I'll mail this to Stuart Rose. Now he does talk to people. He even responds to mailshots to say no thank you. That's the kind of eye for detail, care of your brand and personal responsibility that makes great companies great. I bet he returns his calls or has them returned.

One cannot expect great customer experiences from your company unless one represents that ethos personally.